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Post by Prime on Jan 22, 2009 18:24:38 GMT -5
How do you feel about Barry's return? Personally I'm okay with it because I see how much plotline it can open up but at the same time it still hasn't really hit me that he's staying for good. We'll see how it all turns out.
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Post by Black Flash on Jan 23, 2009 19:48:04 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to it, never having read Barry first-hand...
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Post by Kuhan on Jan 24, 2009 23:47:52 GMT -5
He's definitely staying for good. I like the idea of Barry being back, seeing as it will result and more stories with Barry and it's a great story. Silver Age writers didn't know what to do with "Barry Allen," just the Flash. but Barry is a lot more relevant today. He's a CSI... CSI: Central City!
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Post by Prime on Jan 28, 2009 11:46:34 GMT -5
He's definitely staying for good. I like the idea of Barry being back, seeing as it will result and more stories with Barry and it's a great story. Silver Age writers didn't know what to do with "Barry Allen," just the Flash. but Barry is a lot more relevant today. He's a CSI... CSI: Central City! Very true. I felt that was always the probelm with Barry back then. Writers did not know how to write BARRY but only knew how to write Flash. That's also the main reason some people say Barry has no personality which I don't agree with at all...
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Post by zoom on Jan 28, 2009 16:25:33 GMT -5
I'm very excited to see what Geoff and EVS have planned for him and the Flash mythos, it feels right now that Barry is coming back considering that Hal is around and kicking ass what better time to reunit the Brave and the Bold than now.
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Post by speedforce on Jan 28, 2009 16:54:54 GMT -5
I'm very excited about his return.While I love Wally,Barry is my favorite Flash!Can't wait until "Rebirth".
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Post by younglionsimba on Jan 28, 2009 22:30:18 GMT -5
I voted that he should have stayed dead. I love the character when he appeared in any of Geoff's run. But he had a great death, proberbly the best in comics full stop. I just feel they are taking that away.
On the other hand i am excited about Rebirth, but im not sure if it is due to Barry's return or Geoffs:)
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Post by stevejrogers on Jan 28, 2009 23:51:09 GMT -5
I wrote this on another forum that is for a general comics podcast, and the host is very much against Barry's return, basically because it is a bit of a "stunt" made because DiDio wanted it to happen, and it is pissing all over Wally West and his fans. This was my reaction to him:
There was a post over at TheBatmanUniverse.net's board about how DiDio is like the line The Joker says in TDK that "Its' all...part of the plan" but then DiDio shrugs his shoulder in an "I don't know" way in terms of what the actual plan is. I'll take it further and it is like the line about The Joker being "the dog chasing after a car. I wouldn't know what to do if I ever caught it!"
FWIW, I agree on point about the return of Barry Allen, but I'm too much of a causal comic book fan to really care that much that it would ruin any good that Rebirth and the new Flash series may turn out to be.
And I will also add further to your point that it probably is more of a spitting in the faces of Wally West's fans more so than Hal's return was to Kyle's fans because of the following;
-There is no "Guardians of The Speed Force" or a great number of Speedsters in the DC Universe. Backers of the return of Hal Jordan could say "Hey there was a long time when Hal wasn't even the #1 GL in his own BOOK!" and point to Jon Stewart, Guy Gardner, etc. As well as the fact that GL is only a small part of a greater universe of it's own. In other words Hal being back would not affect Kyle's story in a diminishing way. Wally West WILL be diminished somewhat with the return of Barry Allen to the book. There is no way Barry is coming back and NOT have a starring role.
-And the final reason is that you could make a case that Hal Jordan was always there. He never went away completely after his sacrifice, he became The Spectre. You could make a case that Hal's going psycho and ultimately sacrificing himself was a construct to easily bring the character back if a creative team ever felt like it. Barry Allen's wasn't Barry was gone. End of story.
There was no "out" that would easily bring the real Barry Allen back to his mortal coil. Hell Grant Morrison coped out with "Some energy brought me back to life to chase the bullet" when Barry tries to explain why he was brought back to Wally in FC #4.
So pretty much bringing back Barry Allen is the same as Marvel's "it's magic, we don't have to explain it" about why the whole world, including those who knew for years before Civil War like Norman Osborn and Matt Murdoch, forgot that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, why Harry Osborn was back and why Peter is back to the webshooters again after being able to do it internally.
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Post by momoney433 on Feb 2, 2009 18:17:28 GMT -5
I am extremely excited for this!!
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Post by zoom on Feb 6, 2009 23:37:45 GMT -5
"There was no "out" that would easily bring the real Barry Allen back to his mortal coil. Hell Grant Morrison coped out with "Some energy brought me back to life to chase the bullet" when Barry tries to explain why he was brought back to Wally in FC #4. "
I think the writer of COIE would disagree with you there, also if people want to call out stunts what would you call Barry's death during Crisis?. To me it's just sour grapes from Wally fanatics, yeah it's fine to kill Barry and replace him with Wally but when West gets shipped out and replaced then they want to cry foul. It's that kind of hypocrisy that drives me as a fan crazy, Hal and Barry are both iconic heroes to many many people. And it's great to have them back together like they should always be in the DCU as The Green Lantern and The Flash respectively.
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Post by kelson on Feb 7, 2009 21:00:39 GMT -5
To me it's just sour grapes from Wally fanatics, yeah it's fine to kill Barry and replace him with Wally but when West gets shipped out and replaced then they want to cry foul. It's that kind of hypocrisy that drives me as a fan crazy, Hal and Barry are both iconic heroes to many many people. And it's great to have them back together like they should always be in the DCU as The Green Lantern and The Flash respectively. If they'd stuck with Bart, at least they would have been moving forward. Now they've moved backward, twice. When Barry was killed, DC didn't replace him with Jay.
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Post by zoom on Feb 8, 2009 0:10:46 GMT -5
Last time I checked Flash wasn't moving at all even after bringing back Wally, moving forward because of stuborness even when it fails is the last thing The Flash mythology needs now.
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Post by papazero on Feb 8, 2009 1:20:19 GMT -5
All four are alive and well... and each has a unique identity worthy of focus and exploration. We don't have to make false choices - especially when the story has yet to be written.
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